After updating the video card drivers to 20.11.2, interface artifacts appeared. #82856

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opened 2020-11-19 21:36:47 +01:00 by Alexander · 286 comments

{F9329300}System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: Radeon RX 590 Series ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.14757 Core Profile Context 20.11.2 27.20.14501.18003

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.83.9, branch: master, commit date: 2020-11-11 06:30, hash: 4abfc0bcd5
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
Multiple artifacts can appear [see merged reports and see below]

bbug_3.png unknown.png image.png

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
After updating the video card drivers to 20.11.2, interface artifacts appeared
Possible workaround: downgrade GPU driver

We had more user state that enabling Render Properties > Performance > High Quality Normals avoids the drawing issues with Eevee.

{[F9329300](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9329300/Снимок_экрана_2020-11-19_212921.png)}**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: Radeon RX 590 Series ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.14757 Core Profile Context 20.11.2 27.20.14501.18003 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.83.9, branch: master, commit date: 2020-11-11 06:30, hash: `4abfc0bcd5` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** Multiple artifacts can appear [see merged reports and see below] | ![bbug_3.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9534076/bbug_3.png) |![unknown.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9531934/unknown.png)|![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9526216/image.png)| | -- | -- | -- | **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** After updating the video card drivers to 20.11.2, interface artifacts appeared Possible workaround: downgrade GPU driver We had more user state that enabling Render Properties > Performance > High Quality Normals avoids the drawing issues with Eevee.
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Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

We currently have two other reports that reports graphics glitches with this particular driver version #82891, #82888. Please check if a previous version of the graphics driver fixes the problem for you.

We currently have two other reports that reports graphics glitches with this particular driver version #82891, #82888. Please check if a previous version of the graphics driver fixes the problem for you.
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Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Confirmed'

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Jeroen Bakker self-assigned this 2020-11-24 12:05:01 +01:00
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Classify add this driver to limited support.

Classify add this driver to limited support.
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Installed the old driver version (recommended by AMD). The problem disappeared.

Installed the old driver version (recommended by AMD). The problem disappeared.
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Old driver version solve the problem for me.

Old driver version solve the problem for me.

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good job everyone!

good job everyone!

Maybe is a problem of the 500/400 series.
I have in another computer a 5700 Xt, with the latest driver release everything work fine (20.11.3)
I can't try it on my 480 now...
Anyone can try this release?

Maybe is a problem of the 500/400 series. I have in another computer a 5700 Xt, with the latest driver release everything work fine (20.11.3) I can't try it on my 480 now... Anyone can try this release?
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In #82856#1069297, @Kiactus wrote:
Maybe is a problem of the 500/400 series.
I have in another computer a 5700 Xt, with the latest driver release everything work fine (20.11.3)
I can't try it on my 480 now...
Anyone can try this release?

Same problem on 480

> In #82856#1069297, @Kiactus wrote: > Maybe is a problem of the 500/400 series. > I have in another computer a 5700 Xt, with the latest driver release everything work fine (20.11.3) > I can't try it on my 480 now... > Anyone can try this release? Same problem on 480

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Yes, I have the 480. Problem is I have rolled back my drivers and performed a system reinstall to no effect. Not sure what the heck is going on. Also all versions of Blender is doing it.

Yes, I have the 480. Problem is I have rolled back my drivers and performed a system reinstall to no effect. Not sure what the heck is going on. Also all versions of Blender is doing it.
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Update. Rolling back drivers before 20.11 does fix the Blender rendering issue for now. Now we have to hope AMD gets this fixed.

Update. Rolling back drivers before 20.11 does fix the Blender rendering issue for now. Now we have to hope AMD gets this fixed.
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In #82856#1073049, @DoctorRyanB1 wrote:
Update. Rolling back drivers before 20.11 does fix the Blender rendering issue for now. Now we have to hope AMD gets this fixed.

I tried this workaround, it worked for me.
https://blenderartists.org/t/blender-eevee-not-working-2-8-2-90-for-me/1270834/3

> In #82856#1073049, @DoctorRyanB1 wrote: > Update. Rolling back drivers before 20.11 does fix the Blender rendering issue for now. Now we have to hope AMD gets this fixed. I tried this workaround, it worked for me. https://blenderartists.org/t/blender-eevee-not-working-2-8-2-90-for-me/1270834/3

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We had more user state that enabling Render Properties > Performance > High Quality Normals avoids the drawing issues with Eevee.

We had more user state that enabling *Render Properties > Performance > High Quality Normals* avoids the drawing issues with Eevee.
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The issue might be related to a driver issue when using GL_INT_2_10_10_10_REV. The work around of enabling High quality normals would solve this for mesh rendering. When selecting High quality normals GL_SHORT is used for tangent and normals on meshes. This still leads to rendering errors in curves and meta balls as they still use the low quality normals.

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See here an example the Cube is rendered correctly, but the curve and metaball is rendered incorrecly as the normals cannot be uploaded.
The work around would be to implement HQ normals for all other geometry types and automatically enable high quality normals for specific drivers and GPUs.

I am able to reproduce this issue on linux also...
#82856.blend

The issue might be related to a driver issue when using `GL_INT_2_10_10_10_REV`. The work around of enabling High quality normals would solve this for mesh rendering. When selecting High quality normals `GL_SHORT` is used for tangent and normals on meshes. This still leads to rendering errors in curves and meta balls as they still use the low quality normals. ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9510715/image.png) See here an example the Cube is rendered correctly, but the curve and metaball is rendered incorrecly as the normals cannot be uploaded. The work around would be to implement HQ normals for all other geometry types and automatically enable high quality normals for specific drivers and GPUs. I am able to reproduce this issue on linux also... [#82856.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9510767/T82856.blend)

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I have found the perfect solution.........I went and bought a NIVIDA GTX Card. Lol.

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Can someone close task #83947 as a duplicate because i cant find this task here in the close as duplicate window.

Can someone close task #83947 as a duplicate because i cant find this task here in the close as duplicate window.
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@Jeroen-Bakker I see you've added me as a subscriber, if you need a tester for something just @ me with clear instructions. I've a RX 470 8gb in my system.

@Jeroen-Bakker I see you've added me as a subscriber, if you need a tester for something just @ me with clear instructions. I've a RX 470 8gb in my system.
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Bro what to do i am having serious problem in viewport

Bro what to do i am having serious problem in viewport

In #82856#1085675, @Balaji_X wrote:
Bro what to do i am having serious problem in viewport

Have you tried rolling back drivers like others have suggested?

> In #82856#1085675, @Balaji_X wrote: > Bro what to do i am having serious problem in viewport Have you tried rolling back drivers like others have suggested?

yes sir working on it but plz contact with AMD or do some tweaks its really hard working on cycles

yes sir working on it but plz contact with AMD or do some tweaks its really hard working on cycles

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When this issue will be fixed? AMD say that Blender team must do patch for Blender. What say Blender team?

When this issue will be fixed? AMD say that Blender team must do patch for Blender. What say Blender team?

I updated to Blender 2.9x and my issues resolved.

I updated to Blender 2.9x and my issues resolved.
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{d11a87b88c4d} makes adds support for High quality normals to non-meshes (curves/metaballs/volumetrics). Next step is to auto enable high quality normals when using the mentioned platforms.

{d11a87b88c4d} makes adds support for High quality normals to non-meshes (curves/metaballs/volumetrics). Next step is to auto enable high quality normals when using the mentioned platforms.

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In master there is now a fix available. The fix isn't tested with an Polaris card. I can verify that the fix works later this week when I have access to the hardware.

NOTE: the detection for the work around isn't complete as we need the exact renderer that is reported by the driver. Most reports that have used the help -> report a bug menu item has been added to the detection.

@rjg: I would suggest to wait for my test and confirmation from users and after that close this ticket.

In master there is now a fix available. The fix isn't tested with an Polaris card. I can verify that the fix works later this week when I have access to the hardware. NOTE: the detection for the work around isn't complete as we need the exact renderer that is reported by the driver. Most reports that have used the help -> report a bug menu item has been added to the detection. @rjg: I would suggest to wait for my test and confirmation from users and after that close this ticket.

Will test with my RX 470 tomorrow, seems the buildbot hasn't built the latest yet.

Will test with my RX 470 tomorrow, seems the buildbot hasn't built the latest yet.

How do I get this fix?

How do I get this fix?

@Jeroen-Bakker Will do.

@Brunomendesgussoni The daily builds of Blender 2.92 can be downloaded from here . You will have to wait until tomorrow though, as the build bot will create the new build around midnight.

@Jeroen-Bakker Will do. @Brunomendesgussoni The daily builds of Blender 2.92 can be downloaded from [here ](https://builder.blender.org/download/). You will have to wait until tomorrow though, as the build bot will create the new build around midnight.
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The daily builds of Blender 2.92 can be downloaded from here . You will have to wait until tomorrow though, as the build bot will create the new build around midnight.

rx580(20.12.1), windows 10, Blender 2.92.0 Alpha, still have issue with eevee and cycles

>The daily builds of Blender 2.92 can be downloaded from [here ](https://builder.blender.org/download/). You will have to wait until tomorrow though, as the build bot will create the new build around midnight. rx580(20.12.1), windows 10, Blender 2.92.0 Alpha, still have issue with eevee and cycles

In #82856#1086249, @Jeroen-Bakker wrote:
{d11a87b88c4d} makes adds support for High quality normals to non-meshes (curves/metaballs/volumetrics). Next step is to auto enable high quality normals when using the mentioned platforms.

With high quality normals won't the render time increase?

> In #82856#1086249, @Jeroen-Bakker wrote: > {d11a87b88c4d} makes adds support for High quality normals to non-meshes (curves/metaballs/volumetrics). Next step is to auto enable high quality normals when using the mentioned platforms. With high quality normals won't the render time increase?

@AlexanderProcenko Like I said, you would've had to wait until today. The current build that is now available contains the workaround. Please download and test again.

@AlexanderProcenko Like I said, you would've had to wait until today. The current build that is now available contains the workaround. Please download and test again.

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Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.10586-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: AMD Radeon R7 200 Series ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.14757 Core Profile Context 20.12.1 27.20.14501.28009

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2.92.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-01-04 23:35, hash: 9b17e71c23

AMD Radeon R7 200 here, 20.12.1, windows 10 , blender 2.92.0 Alpha- can confirm that this workaround solve this issue so far for me.

  • I also installed radeon-software-adrenalin *
    Thank you very much for helping us with this issue!
*System Information* Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.10586-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: AMD Radeon R7 200 Series ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.14757 Core Profile Context 20.12.1 27.20.14501.28009 **Blender Version** 2.92.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-01-04 23:35, hash: `9b17e71c23` AMD Radeon R7 200 here, 20.12.1, windows 10 , blender 2.92.0 Alpha- can confirm that this workaround solve this issue so far for me. * I also installed radeon-software-adrenalin * Thank you very much for helping us with this issue!

Seems fine over here.

VP-Rendered_screen.png VP-MatPreview_screen.png

System Information Operating system: Windows-7-6.1.7601-SP1 64 Bits Graphics card: Radeon TM RX 470 Graphics ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.14757 Core Profile Context 20.12.1 27.20.14501.28009 Blender Version version: 2.92.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-01-04 23:35, hash: 9b17e71c23

Seems fine over here. ![VP-Rendered_screen.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9551320/VP-Rendered_screen.png) ![VP-MatPreview_screen.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9551321/VP-MatPreview_screen.png) > **System Information** Operating system: Windows-7-6.1.7601-SP1 64 Bits Graphics card: Radeon TM RX 470 Graphics ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.14757 Core Profile Context 20.12.1 27.20.14501.28009 **Blender Version** version: 2.92.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-01-04 23:35, hash: 9b17e71c23

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version: 2.92.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-01-04 23:35, hash: 9b17e71c23, type: Release
build date: 2021-01-04, 23:11:02
Windows 10 Pro 64 19042.685

Rx 580 8Gb
Software version: 2020.1204.0703.12704

It seems to work well.

version: 2.92.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-01-04 23:35, hash: 9b17e71c23a9, type: Release build date: 2021-01-04, 23:11:02 Windows 10 Pro 64 19042.685 **Rx 580 8Gb** Software version: 2020.1204.0703.12704 **It seems to work well.**
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Thanks all for testing!

In #82856#1086791, @DrkCrb wrote:
With high quality normals won't the render time increase?

It could in very complex scenes, but not sure it will be noticeable. A normal is stored in 32 bits in low quality and in 48 bits in high quality.

Thanks all for testing! > In #82856#1086791, @DrkCrb wrote: > With high quality normals won't the render time increase? It could in very complex scenes, but not sure it will be noticeable. A normal is stored in 32 bits in low quality and in 48 bits in high quality.

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This did not seem to fix the wireframe overlay being invisible for me in any mode other than edit (which seems to have been merged into this bug report?), in any renderer, even with high quality normals enabled.
I have previously fixed the problem by downgrading my graphics drivers.

Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: Radeon RX 580 Series ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.14757 Core Profile Context 20.12.1 27.20.14501.28009

version: 2.92.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-01-04 23:35, hash: 9b17e71c23

Sorry, I realise this build was probably not meant to deal with this issue, just thought I'd mention.

This did not seem to fix the wireframe overlay being invisible for me in any mode other than edit (which seems to have been merged into this bug report?), in any renderer, even with high quality normals enabled. I have previously fixed the problem by downgrading my graphics drivers. Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: Radeon RX 580 Series ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.14757 Core Profile Context 20.12.1 27.20.14501.28009 version: 2.92.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-01-04 23:35, hash: `9b17e71c23` Sorry, I realise this build was probably not meant to deal with this issue, just thought I'd mention.
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This report has become a collection of multiple different errors introduced with the AMD drivers. As far as I can tell there are 3 categories:

  • Wireframe missing (I haven't been able to reproduce this one yet)
  • Missing surface in 3d viewport (that is fixed now as far as I can tell)
  • Cycles OpenCL compilation failures. (Haven't looked at this one yet).

Perhaps it is better to separate this ticket into 3 subtickets to be more clear?

This report has become a collection of multiple different errors introduced with the AMD drivers. As far as I can tell there are 3 categories: * Wireframe missing (I haven't been able to reproduce this one yet) * Missing surface in 3d viewport (that is fixed now as far as I can tell) * Cycles OpenCL compilation failures. (Haven't looked at this one yet). Perhaps it is better to separate this ticket into 3 subtickets to be more clear?

Its a mirracle! Last alfa daily build of Blender good working on 20.12.1! rx580 I LOVE YOU!:)

Its a mirracle! Last alfa daily build of Blender good working on 20.12.1! rx580 I LOVE YOU!:)

@Jeroen-Bakker The Cycles OpenCL one should definitely be a separate one. I was entirely under the impression this' a viewport/EEVEE one.

edit: Aaaand I can confirm that the wireframe overlay doesn't work in object mode. Nor setting the object display to wireframe. Or switching viewport shading from solid shading to wireframe.

MeshCube_SubdividedSmooth-ObjectMode-2.92.png

Toggling Hidden Wire in overlays while in editmode does work though.

@Jeroen-Bakker The Cycles OpenCL one should definitely be a separate one. I was entirely under the impression this' a viewport/EEVEE one. edit: *Aaaand* **I can confirm** that the wireframe overlay doesn't work in object mode. Nor setting the object display to wireframe. Or switching viewport shading from solid shading to wireframe. ![MeshCube_SubdividedSmooth-ObjectMode-2.92.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9551911/MeshCube_SubdividedSmooth-ObjectMode-2.92.png) Toggling `Hidden Wire` in overlays while in editmode does work though.

@Jeroen-Bakker Huh, just enabled face normals in editmode and those aren't showing up either. I think there is a wider issue with overlays here. Still the same system with RX 470.

@Jeroen-Bakker Huh, just enabled face normals in editmode and those aren't showing up either. I think there is a wider issue with overlays here. Still the same system with RX 470.

In #82856#1088393, @FelixKutt wrote:
@Jeroen-Bakker Huh, just enabled face normals in editmode and those aren't showing up either. I think there is a wider issue with overlays here. Still the same system with RX 470.

Yes, also on my system too. Radeon RX 580.

AMD really mucked up a lot.

> In #82856#1088393, @FelixKutt wrote: > @Jeroen-Bakker Huh, just enabled face normals in editmode and those aren't showing up either. I think there is a wider issue with overlays here. Still the same system with RX 470. Yes, also on my system too. Radeon RX 580. AMD really mucked up a lot.

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This happens to me as well ( material preview is all grey as well ).

My specs:

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Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.17763-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.14757 Core Profile Context 20.12.1 27.20.14501.28009

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Broken: version: 2.91.0, branch: master, commit date: 2020-11-25 08:34, hash: 0f45cab862

Going to try 2.93.0 alpha and let you know the results

Update1
2.93.0 alpha works fine
2.92.0 Beta doesn't

Update2 - Jan 15 2021
2.93.0 alpha works fine
2.92.0 Seems to be working today,-Beta doesn't-

This happens to me as well ( material preview is all grey as well ). My specs: **System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.17763-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.14757 Core Profile Context 20.12.1 27.20.14501.28009 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.91.0, branch: master, commit date: 2020-11-25 08:34, hash: `0f45cab862` Going to try 2.93.0 alpha and let you know the results **Update1** 2.93.0 alpha works fine 2.92.0 Beta doesn't **Update2 - Jan 15 2021** 2.93.0 alpha works fine 2.92.0 Seems to be working today,-Beta doesn't-

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I had the same issue.

I downloaded 2.92 Beta today and I can confirm this is working now.

AMD Radeon RX 580 Series 8GB Sapphire

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2020.1204.0703.12704

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20.45.01.28-201204a-361901C-RadeonSoftwareAdrenalin2020

I had the same issue. I downloaded 2.92 Beta today and I can confirm this is working now. AMD Radeon RX 580 Series 8GB Sapphire Software Version 2020.1204.0703.12704 Driver Version 20.45.01.28-201204a-361901C-RadeonSoftwareAdrenalin2020
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Blender 2.91.2
GPU- Radeon RX590
Driver - 20.11.1
Снимок экрана 2021-01-20 210213.png
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When setting these parameters in the Modeling window in render mode, the system crashes.

Blender 2.91.2 GPU- Radeon RX590 Driver - 20.11.1 ![Снимок экрана 2021-01-20 210213.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9589981/Снимок_экрана_2021-01-20_210213.png) ![Снимок экрана 2021-01-20 210236.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9589980/Снимок_экрана_2021-01-20_210236.png) When setting these parameters in the Modeling window in render mode, the system crashes.

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Charlotte Heron self-assigned this 2021-01-21 17:04:07 +01:00

Hi, I have the same problem, but I don't know how to fix it.

Hi, I have the same problem, but I don't know how to fix it.
Charlotte Heron was unassigned by Robert Guetzkow 2021-01-21 17:10:11 +01:00

@Cleron please don't claim tasks. This option is for assigning developers who will work on solving the issue.

There is already a workaround implemented in 2.92. Until it is released you can either downgrade your graphics driver to 20.11.1 or enable Render Properties > Performance > High Quality Normals, as already explained in the ticket and comments.

@Cleron please don't claim tasks. This option is for assigning developers who will work on solving the issue. There is already a workaround implemented in 2.92. Until it is released you can either downgrade your graphics driver to 20.11.1 or enable *Render Properties > Performance > High Quality Normals*, as already explained in the ticket and comments.

Hi, sorry, I didn't understand what I was doing, and thanks for the support.

Hi, sorry, I didn't understand what I was doing, and thanks for the support.

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Radeon Software Adrenalin 2020 Edition 21.2.2 Highlights
Fixed Issues
Objects may fail to render correctly when using EEVEE render in Blender™ on Radeon RX 400 and Radeon RX 500 series graphics products.

I will download and test, will it work?

Radeon Software Adrenalin 2020 Edition 21.2.2 Highlights Fixed Issues Objects may fail to render correctly when using EEVEE render in Blender™ on Radeon RX 400 and Radeon RX 500 series graphics products. **I will download and test, will it work?**
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Updated the drive 21.2.2, EEVEE now works, but in Cycles the program crashes.

Updated the drive 21.2.2, EEVEE now works, but in Cycles the program crashes.
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