2.92 Pen Pressure is broken #82432

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opened 2020-11-05 13:47:03 +01:00 by serge · 52 comments

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 456.71
Tablet Screen: Huion Kamvas Pro 13, v 14.8.137.1273

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.92.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2020-11-05 00:02, hash: 86bdc959a3
Worked: Beta, branch: master, commit date: 2020-11-04 19:21, hash: 29780b8101eb,

Short description of error
Pen pressure is broken in both modes., For 2.91 and earliest versions it works perfectly in wintab mode.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
Open Blender >> sculpt mode >> sculpt with standard brush with radius affected by pen pressure.

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 456.71 Tablet Screen: Huion Kamvas Pro 13, v 14.8.137.1273 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.92.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2020-11-05 00:02, hash: `86bdc959a3` Worked: Beta, branch: master, commit date: 2020-11-04 19:21, hash: `29780b8101eb`, **Short description of error** Pen pressure is broken in both modes., For 2.91 and earliest versions it works perfectly in wintab mode. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Open Blender >> sculpt mode >> sculpt with standard brush with radius affected by pen pressure.
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I also have a problem with Wintab in 2.92

Windows Ink works when I enable it in Wacom settings... but I don't want to use Ink, it really sucks. Ink displays mod keys under the cursor for some weird reason, breaks in some applications (that's why I turned it OFF in the first place) and has many stupid overlays and features that stand in the way of using graphics tablets and are hard or impossible to disable...

Windows designers are really, really awful at their job...

I also have a problem with Wintab in 2.92 Windows Ink works when I enable it in Wacom settings... but I don't want to use Ink, it really sucks. Ink displays mod keys under the cursor for some weird reason, breaks in some applications (that's why I turned it OFF in the first place) and has many stupid overlays and features that stand in the way of using graphics tablets and are hard or impossible to disable... Windows designers are really, really awful at their job...

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I have a very similar problem using a Huion w1409 v2. When i use "Auto" as the "Tablet API" i can't use the side button of my pen for viewport rotation and when i set it to Windows Ink the problem is gone but my pen pressure is fucked up.

https://developer.blender.org/T82430 This is the bug report i opened today.

I have a very similar problem using a Huion w1409 v2. When i use "Auto" as the "Tablet API" i can't use the side button of my pen for viewport rotation and when i set it to Windows Ink the problem is gone but my pen pressure is fucked up. https://developer.blender.org/T82430 This is the bug report i opened today.
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@PrototypeNM1 : we have quite a few reports in the last days, could you go over these [I cannot test here]:
Feel free to merge them if appropriate.

#82441 (Blender freezes in response to tablet navigation)
#82445 (Wacom tablet revert to not working even after tablet driver update.)
#82432 (2.92 Pen Pressure is broken)
#82430 (Huion WH 1409 v2 viewport rotation with pen side buttons not working anymore in latest 2.92 alpha)
#82421 (Hang in wintab)
#82418 (Blender 2.82 drawing tablet not working properly)

({#82431}?)

@PrototypeNM1 : we have quite a few reports in the last days, could you go over these [I cannot test here]: Feel free to merge them if appropriate. #82441 (Blender freezes in response to tablet navigation) #82445 (Wacom tablet revert to not working even after tablet driver update.) #82432 (2.92 Pen Pressure is broken) #82430 (Huion WH 1409 v2 viewport rotation with pen side buttons not working anymore in latest 2.92 alpha) #82421 (Hang in wintab) #82418 (Blender 2.82 drawing tablet not working properly) ({#82431}?)
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Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'
Nicholas Rishel was assigned by Philipp Oeser 2020-11-06 10:28:53 +01:00

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Blender version 2.92 alpha (2020-11-09 hash:b5d310b569e0)
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit

I can report that the pen pressure from my Wacom Intuos III tablet is not working for Sculpting in Blender 2.92. If attempted, the stylus produces single 'blips' of brush activity, then freezing, but not making anything like a continuous stroke.
The mouse works as expected in Sculpting, unless the one attempts to use the tablet and stylus. Once the tablet starts producing faulty behaviour, the mouse, too, will no longer function correctly in Sculpting. Once this occurs, making a new scene in Blender does not fix the situation. It is necessary to quit the program and restart in order for (even) the mouse to work properly in Sculpting.

Both mouse and tablet are working as expected in Blender 2.91

Blender version 2.92 alpha (2020-11-09 hash:b5d310b569e0) Windows 7 Pro 64-bit I can report that the pen pressure from my Wacom Intuos III tablet is not working for Sculpting in Blender 2.92. If attempted, the stylus produces single 'blips' of brush activity, then freezing, but not making anything like a continuous stroke. The mouse works as expected in Sculpting, unless the one attempts to use the tablet and stylus. Once the tablet starts producing faulty behaviour, the mouse, too, will no longer function correctly in Sculpting. Once this occurs, making a new scene in Blender does not fix the situation. It is necessary to quit the program and restart in order for (even) the mouse to work properly in Sculpting. Both mouse and tablet are working as expected in Blender 2.91

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Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Confirmed'

Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Confirmed'

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I had the same issue with a Huion H610 pro, afer waiting some days to get solved I decided to upate my drivers and pen pressure and stroke are solved. However I can't rotate 3d view with pen button like @Harti

I had the same issue with a Huion H610 pro, afer waiting some days to get solved I decided to upate my drivers and pen pressure and stroke are solved. However I can't rotate 3d view with pen button like @Harti

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'

In #82432#1053206, @HaroldRiverolEchemendia wrote:
I had the same issue with a Huion H610 pro, afer waiting some days to get solved I decided to upate my drivers and pen pressure and stroke are solved. However I can't rotate 3d view with pen button like @Harti

Just a quick update. I just realized that issue came after I put PC on hibernation and wake up again. I guess driver update worked because I had to reboot laptop.

> In #82432#1053206, @HaroldRiverolEchemendia wrote: > I had the same issue with a Huion H610 pro, afer waiting some days to get solved I decided to upate my drivers and pen pressure and stroke are solved. However I can't rotate 3d view with pen button like @Harti Just a quick update. I just realized that issue came after I put PC on hibernation and wake up again. I guess driver update worked because I had to reboot laptop.

@ignatz Could you create a new issue and tag me in it?

@ignatz Could you create a new issue and tag me in it?

Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Needs User Info'

Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Needs User Info'

@rpserge can can you run [this build ]] and paste the console log [ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | at this link?

@rpserge can can you run [this build ]] and paste the console log [[ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | at this link](https:*blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/)?
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@PrototypeNM1 Ok. https://developer.blender.org/P1766

@rpserge can you double check that you used the build of Blender that I linked above? I don't see any of the logging code I added and a lot of logging code that shouldn't be there.

The resulting log should look very similar to P1768.

@rpserge can you double check that you used the build of Blender that I linked above? I don't see any of the logging code I added and a lot of logging code that shouldn't be there. The resulting log should look very similar to [P1768](https://archive.blender.org/developer/P1768.txt).
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@PrototypeNM1 yes, this is your build. Could you please tell me how to run this build properly to have requested information logged? I use command "--debug-all" to save previous log file, maybe it was wrong.

@PrototypeNM1 yes, this is your build. Could you please tell me how to run this build properly to have requested information logged? I use command "--debug-all" to save previous log file, maybe it was wrong.

Sorry, my fault on missing console output.

Just run Blender like normal without --debug-all as that adds a lot of noise and isn't needed for what I'm logging.

I fixed the issue with the system console not working, [download build here ]] and [ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | paste console here .

Sorry, my fault on missing console output. Just run Blender like normal without `--debug-all` as that adds a lot of noise and isn't needed for what I'm logging. I fixed the issue with the system console not working, [download build here ]] and [[ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | paste console here ](https:*blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/).
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@PrototypeNM1 Ok. I run blender with Debug_log to save the log: https://developer.blender.org/P1781

When I am trying to scult with your build I can see in the console:

WT_CTXOVERLAP CXS_OBSCURED
OS button down
unhandled system button
OS button up
unhandled system button
OS button up
WT_CTXOVERLAP CXS_ONTOP
OS button down
unhandled system button

etc...

@PrototypeNM1 Ok. I run blender with Debug_log to save the log: https://developer.blender.org/P1781 When I am trying to scult with your build I can see in the console: > WT_CTXOVERLAP CXS_OBSCURED > OS button down > unhandled system button > OS button up > unhandled system button > OS button up > WT_CTXOVERLAP CXS_ONTOP > OS button down > unhandled system button etc...

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Same problem here with this config.

Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1070/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 432.00
Broken: version: 2.92.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2020-11-17 12:12, hash: 03ad2958d3

Same problem here with this config. Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1070/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 432.00 Broken: version: 2.92.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2020-11-17 12:12, hash: `03ad2958d3`

@rpserge @mendio [Try this build ]] which might fix the issue, if not paste the console log [ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | at this link .

@rpserge @mendio [Try this build ]] which might fix the issue, if not paste the console log [[ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | at this link ](https:*blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/).
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@PrototypeNM1 wow, it is actually much better! Pen is working with pressure and tilt support (checked with clay strips brush). The only issue I have - I can't orbit viewport by hovering with a pen around tablet with pressed button (middle mouse action), without touching display. (how it always was in previous versions)
It properly orbit only when I press the button on a pen and touching the surface by the nib. https://developer.blender.org/P1788

@PrototypeNM1 wow, it is actually much better! Pen is working with pressure and tilt support (checked with clay strips brush). The only issue I have - I can't orbit viewport by hovering with a pen around tablet with pressed button (middle mouse action), without touching display. (how it always was in previous versions) It properly orbit only when I press the button on a pen and touching the surface by the nib. https://developer.blender.org/P1788

In #82432#1056660, @rpserge wrote:
@PrototypeNM1 wow, it is actually much better! Pen is working with pressure and tilt support (checked with clay strips brush). The only issue I have - I can't orbit viewport by hovering with a pen around tablet with pressed button (middle mouse action), without touching display. (how it always was in previous versions)
It properly orbit only when I press the button on a pen and touching the surface by the nib. https://developer.blender.org/P1788

I'm afraid I'm still having the same issue.
Console log:
00000000002B093C discarding unqueued button prev 0l curr 2l
00000000002B093C OS button down
00000000002B093C unhandled system button
00000000002B093C discarding unqueued button prev 2l curr 0l
00000000002B093C OS button up
00000000002B093C discarding unqueued button prev 0l curr 1l
00000000002B093C OS button down
00000000002B093C unhandled system button
00000000002B093C discarding unqueued button prev 1l curr 0l
00000000002B093C OS button up
00000000002B093C discarding unqueued button prev 0l curr 1l
00000000002B093C OS button down

> In #82432#1056660, @rpserge wrote: > @PrototypeNM1 wow, it is actually much better! Pen is working with pressure and tilt support (checked with clay strips brush). The only issue I have - I can't orbit viewport by hovering with a pen around tablet with pressed button (middle mouse action), without touching display. (how it always was in previous versions) > It properly orbit only when I press the button on a pen and touching the surface by the nib. https://developer.blender.org/P1788 I'm afraid I'm still having the same issue. Console log: 00000000002B093C discarding unqueued button prev 0l curr 2l 00000000002B093C OS button down 00000000002B093C unhandled system button 00000000002B093C discarding unqueued button prev 2l curr 0l 00000000002B093C OS button up 00000000002B093C discarding unqueued button prev 0l curr 1l 00000000002B093C OS button down 00000000002B093C unhandled system button 00000000002B093C discarding unqueued button prev 1l curr 0l 00000000002B093C OS button up 00000000002B093C discarding unqueued button prev 0l curr 1l 00000000002B093C OS button down

In #82432#1056660, @rpserge wrote:
@PrototypeNM1 wow, it is actually much better! Pen is working with pressure and tilt support (checked with clay strips brush). The only issue I have - I can't orbit viewport by hovering with a pen around tablet with pressed button (middle mouse action), without touching display. (how it always was in previous versions)
It properly orbit only when I press the button on a pen and touching the surface by the nib. https://developer.blender.org/P1788

That was my inital problem (which i opened a bug report over one week ago).

In #82432#1056647, @PrototypeNM1 wrote:
@rpserge @mendio [Try this build ]] which might fix the issue, if not paste the console log [ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | at this link .

No pen pressure with Windows Ink and no orbiting with the pen side button in Wintab. No fix so far.

The log
https://developer.blender.org/P1793

Switching from Windows Ink to Wintab seems like it won't refresh the setting - when i use the mouse to sculpt it kinda triggers the switch and wintab gives me pen pressure but disables the viewport orbiting.

> In #82432#1056660, @rpserge wrote: > @PrototypeNM1 wow, it is actually much better! Pen is working with pressure and tilt support (checked with clay strips brush). The only issue I have - **I can't orbit viewport by hovering with a pen around tablet with pressed button (middle mouse action), without touching display. (how it always was in previous versions)** > It properly orbit only when I press the button on a pen and touching the surface by the nib. https://developer.blender.org/P1788 That was my inital problem (which i opened a bug report over one week ago). > In #82432#1056647, @PrototypeNM1 wrote: > @rpserge @mendio [Try this build ]] which might fix the issue, if not paste the console log [[ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | at this link ](https:*blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/). No pen pressure with Windows Ink and no orbiting with the pen side button in Wintab. No fix so far. The log https://developer.blender.org/P1793 Switching from Windows Ink to Wintab seems like it won't refresh the setting - when i use the mouse to sculpt it kinda triggers the switch and wintab gives me pen pressure but disables the viewport orbiting.

With your build, Wintab is recognized but there is a strong lag when drawing with Grease Pencil or navigating the viewport.
Log: https:*developer.blender.org/P1794

With your build, Wintab is recognized but there is a strong lag when drawing with Grease Pencil or navigating the viewport. Log: [https:*developer.blender.org/P1794 ](https:*developer.blender.org/P1794)

@rpserge Could you check if this build still works for you? This is just a check to make sure things are still working after cleanup.

This one doesn't yet attempt to address the hover click issue, but you might still want to test it and upload a log anyway.

@rpserge Could you check if [this build ](https://blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/) still works for you? This is just a check to make sure things are still working after cleanup. This one doesn't yet attempt to address the hover click issue, but you might still want to test it and upload a log anyway.

In #82432#1057416, @PrototypeNM1 wrote:
@rpserge Could you check if this build still works for you? This is just a check to make sure things are still working after cleanup.

This one doesn't yet attempt to address the hover click issue, but you might still want to test it and upload a log anyway.

In #82432#1057416, @PrototypeNM1 wrote:
@rpserge Could you check if this build still works for you? This is just a check to make sure things are still working after cleanup.

This one doesn't yet attempt to address the hover click issue, but you might still want to test it and upload a log anyway.

Pen Pressure is almost fixed for me(only some missdetections at the beginning of the stroke), hover click remains. https://developer.blender.org/P1801

imagen.png

> In #82432#1057416, @PrototypeNM1 wrote: > @rpserge Could you check if [this build ](https://blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/) still works for you? This is just a check to make sure things are still working after cleanup. > > This one doesn't yet attempt to address the hover click issue, but you might still want to test it and upload a log anyway. > In #82432#1057416, @PrototypeNM1 wrote: > @rpserge Could you check if [this build ](https://blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/) still works for you? This is just a check to make sure things are still working after cleanup. > > This one doesn't yet attempt to address the hover click issue, but you might still want to test it and upload a log anyway. Pen Pressure is almost fixed for me(only some missdetections at the beginning of the stroke), hover click remains. https://developer.blender.org/P1801 ![imagen.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9320097/imagen.png)
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Yes, for me pen and pressure is working too. Viewport orbit - only with a click. https://developer.blender.org/P1802

Yes, for me pen and pressure is working too. Viewport orbit - only with a click. https://developer.blender.org/P1802

@rpserge can do a test where you only hover click 3 times and upload the log? Only use the pen, avoid clicking with the mouse at all in the main Blender window.

No need to download a new build, the last should work.

@rpserge can do a test where you only hover click 3 times and upload the log? Only use the pen, avoid clicking with the mouse at all in the main Blender window. No need to download a new build, the last should work.
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@PrototypeNM1 Ok. https://developer.blender.org/P1806

Could you do the same test but hover right click instead?

Could you do the same test but hover right click instead?
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Just hover without click by the nib. https://developer.blender.org/P1808

Just hover without click by the nib. https://developer.blender.org/P1808
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Hi, same (or related issue here) : view rotation using tablet freezes a while every minutes (variable), a mouse click or a selection can restore the rotation until the next freeze. Also walking (with gravity) using stylet is impossible (to sensitive, a very small movement and you turn like a spinning top). Pressure seems to work correctly for me.
Thanks

ps : a single touch of the tablet surface unfreeze the view rotation, if you can click on a free area it can help, but not perfect.
I didn't specified but all worked fine with 2.91 and previous blender versions

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.17763-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 457.30
Intuos 5 (6.3.41)

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.92.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2020-12-09 01:29, hash: 9b11a7776f
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Hi, same (or related issue here) : view rotation using tablet freezes a while every minutes (variable), a mouse click or a selection can restore the rotation until the next freeze. Also walking (with gravity) using stylet is impossible (to sensitive, a very small movement and you turn like a spinning top). Pressure seems to work correctly for me. Thanks ps : a single touch of the tablet surface unfreeze the view rotation, if you can click on a free area it can help, but not perfect. I didn't specified but all worked fine with 2.91 and previous blender versions **System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.17763-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 457.30 Intuos 5 (6.3.41) **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.92.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2020-12-09 01:29, hash: `9b11a7776f` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Concerning the lags, it seems that all work normally for me since the two or three last 2.92 releases, I don't see the problem on the same heavy scene. I can't say for the pen pressure as I don't really use it, but the walk is still present. Thanks.

Concerning the lags, it seems that all work normally for me since the two or three last 2.92 releases, I don't see the problem on the same heavy scene. I can't say for the pen pressure as I don't really use it, but the walk is still present. Thanks.

sorry my last message is not very clear, now the issue with the pen and the walking mode seems to be solved in the last 2.92 release (2.92.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2020-12-20 17:48, hash: d283a093d6). Just on thing, when the pen comes close to the edge of the tablet and that you have to recenter it, it should be possible to resume the walk from the last position. Actually the orientation change brutally and unpredictably when repositioning the pen on the tablet (same behavior when repositioning the mouse).


sorry my last message is not very clear, now the issue with the pen and the walking mode seems to be solved in the last 2.92 release (2.92.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2020-12-20 17:48, hash: `d283a093d6`). Just on thing, when the pen comes close to the edge of the tablet and that you have to recenter it, it should be possible to resume the walk from the last position. Actually the orientation change brutally and unpredictably when repositioning the pen on the tablet (same behavior when repositioning the mouse). ```

@PMA33 I think you're describing #83930

@PMA33 I think you're describing #83930

@rpserge can you recreate the issue in this build ? No log necessary, just need to know if recent changes fixed this.

@rpserge can you recreate the issue in [this build ](https://blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/)? No log necessary, just need to know if recent changes fixed this.

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Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Archived'

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Archived'

No activity for more than a week. As per the tracker policy we assume the issue is gone and can be closed.

Thanks again for the report. If the problem persists please open a new report with the required information.

No activity for more than a week. As per the tracker policy we assume the issue is gone and can be closed. Thanks again for the report. If the problem persists please open a new report with the required information.
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@PrototypeNM1 sorry, I missed your message last week. I have just tried new build and it works very good - I don't have any glitches with the viewport movements or during the sculpting.

@PrototypeNM1 sorry, I missed your message last week. I have just tried new build and it works very good - I don't have any glitches with the viewport movements or during the sculpting.

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Resolved'

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Resolved'

No worries, thanks for confirming. :)

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