Blender crashes when adding a particle system to a mesh object and switching the type to Hair #83199
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System Information
Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.91.0, branch: master, commit date: 2020-11-25 08:34, hash:
0f45cab862Worked: 2.90.1
Short description of error
When adding a new "hair" particle system to a project file, Blender (2.91) crashes.
Sometimes you need to enable children for the crash to occur (Happens to @bittihiisi)
It doesn't matter if the renderer is Eevee or Workbench
Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
2 ways to reproduce:
1st way:
If it doesn't crash immediately, enable children
2nd way:
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Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'
I can't reproduce the issue both the instruction and the file don't cause a crash on my test system (Windows, Nvidia GPU). There is a very similar report #82989.
When Blender crashes the macOS Crash Reporter should open and display the stack trace. Could you please copy that into a file and attach it to your bug report?
crash.txt
@robgreayer This appears to be an issue with the graphics driver. Please update it to the most recent version before 20.11.2. Don't use Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.11.2 Optional, 27.20.14501.18003 as it is known to cause problems (see #83088).Since it is MacOS, one can only upgrade the driver by upgrading to a newer version of the operating system. I'm currently running a very recent OS (Catalina 10.15.7 (19H2) ).
I can upgrade to Big Sur and see if that helps, but I won't have control over the version of the driver that Big Sur (11.0.1) includes.
I should note though: this works correctly on
Blender 2.90.1, with thesame OS version & driver. This implies that something in the Blender codebase has changed to cause this crash (between 2.90.1 and 2.91.0), even if the floating point exception is happening in the driver.[I will update to MacOSX 11.0.1 and see if it helps, though I don't know if that will be a viable solution for all iMac users who encounter this problem]
@robgreayer You're right. In that case you don't have to and apparently it also occurred on a different GPU on Windows in the other ticket.
crash2.txt Unfortunately it also occurs in 11.0.1 (Big Sur). I've attached the crash report from that as well, in case it helps.
Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'
Added subscribers: @Bruin47, @mano-wii
Hi. If I turn Physics Type to "None" with the Particle Type set to "Emitter" and then switch to "Hair" Blender does not crash. However no hair is generated. Maybe a clue??
Added subscribers: @nishanth227, @filedescriptor
Added subscriber: @antlep
I confirmed what ever is the version of Blender (>2.91.2), on Big Sur (11.1). It crashed :(
edit :
same scenario with blender 2.93 LTS
Added subscriber: @cowzrblue
Confirmed I'm getting the same exact crash.
I also turned Physics Type to "None" with the Particle Type set to "Emitter" and switched to "Hair" with no crash. However no hair is generated, turned back, and crashed.
iMac Catalina 10.15.7
• AMD Radeon R9 M390 2GB
• 3.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5
Blender Crash.txt
blender_debug_output.txt
Added subscriber: @kofodjesper
I have the same problem on a Mac Pro 2013 with Catalina, but it worked fine in Blender 2.83.
Added subscriber: @AWeber
I am having the same problem and, was able to recreate the problem as mentioned above.
MacBook Pro mid-2015
Crash Report:
Blender 2.91.0 Crash Report.rtf
Added subscribers: @mattporter, @ankitm, @PhilipWatkin, @jacques74, @JamesStudios, @adrianjaffe, @girafic, @PratikPB2123, @Maxlnk, @lichtwerk, @BaldName
Since this is reported so often, will dare setting to High priority.
Had to move to a 2019 iMac running 10.14.6 (18G8022) temporarily and hair works fine. Still crashing on leave and return though. 2.92.0 2021-02-25
Added subscriber: @gypsypanthr
{F9938032}I am having the same issue. Crashes the moment I click hair.
MacOS Big Sur 11.2.3 (20D91)
Blender version 2.92.0
Mac Pro (Late 2013)
3.7 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon E5
16 GB 1866 MHz DDR3
AMD FirePro D300 2 GB
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Added subscriber: @fclem
@fclem: does this ring a bell?
Added subscriber: @itz_me
I installed an add-on that uses hair particle systems and it somehow manages to work even though Blender crashes if I select he hair particle system myself.
Added subscriber: @Qazpal
What add-on are you using?
I too have the same problem. Also, after consulting other people that have the same problem, it tends to happen in older Macs only. I haven't met anyone with the problem who has a Mac from 2017 or later. I'm on a late 2014 iMac. Also, this is tagged as Eevee and view port but it does not function on Cycles either.
It only crashes Blender if the particle system renders as a Path. If you add a particle system, disable it's visibility from the viewport, change it object or collection instancing, you can enable it in the viewport and it works fine. If you try to render as path though, even with only 1 hair, Blender crashes.
It’s called true terrain 3.0. Thanks for the info! I’m on a 2013 “trash can” Mac Pro.
Added subscriber: @bruce-4
I also have this issue on Big Sur. New project with default cube selected, add hair and instant crash.
Process: Blender [4188]
Path: /Applications/Blender.app/Contents/MacOS/Blender
Identifier: org.blenderfoundation.blender
Version: 2.92.0 (2.92.0 2021-02-25)
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: ??? [1]
Responsible: Blender [4188]
User ID: 502
Date/Time: 2021-05-11 13:21:42.215 +0100
OS Version: macOS 11.2.3 (20D91)
Report Version: 12
Anonymous UUID: 1D05972B-3E59-86A2-47BB-F512D2F75C5C
Time Awake Since Boot: 12000 seconds
System Integrity Protection: enabled
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_ARITHMETIC (SIGFPE)
Exception Codes: EXC_I386_DIV (divide by zero)
Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY
Termination Signal: Floating point exception: 8
Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0x8
Terminating Process: exc handler [4188]
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
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0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff2031deba semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994ec8 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run() + 104
2 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994e59 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine(void*) + 9
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff20352950 _pthread_start + 224
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2034e47b thread_start + 15
Thread 20:
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1 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994ec8 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run() + 104
2 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994e59 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine(void*) + 9
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff20352950 _pthread_start + 224
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2034e47b thread_start + 15
Thread 21:
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1 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994ec8 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run() + 104
2 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994e59 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine(void*) + 9
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff20352950 _pthread_start + 224
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2034e47b thread_start + 15
Thread 22:
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1 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994ec8 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run() + 104
2 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994e59 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine(void*) + 9
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff20352950 _pthread_start + 224
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2034e47b thread_start + 15
Thread 23:
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1 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994ec8 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run() + 104
2 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994e59 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine(void*) + 9
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff20352950 _pthread_start + 224
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2034e47b thread_start + 15
Thread 24:
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1 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994ec8 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run() + 104
2 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994e59 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine(void*) + 9
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff20352950 _pthread_start + 224
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2034e47b thread_start + 15
Thread 25:
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1 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994ec8 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run() + 104
2 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994e59 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine(void*) + 9
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff20352950 _pthread_start + 224
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2034e47b thread_start + 15
Thread 26:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff2031deba semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994ec8 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run() + 104
2 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994e59 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine(void*) + 9
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff20352950 _pthread_start + 224
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2034e47b thread_start + 15
Thread 27:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff2031deba semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994ec8 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run() + 104
2 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994e59 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine(void*) + 9
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff20352950 _pthread_start + 224
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2034e47b thread_start + 15
Thread 28:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff2031deba semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994ec8 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run() + 104
2 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000104994e59 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine(void*) + 9
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff20352950 _pthread_start + 224
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2034e47b thread_start + 15
Thread 29:: com.apple.NSEventThread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff2031de7e mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff2031e1f0 mach_msg + 60
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff2044a50d __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 316
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff20448bf6 __CFRunLoopRun + 1319
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff20447fe2 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 567
5 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff22d237c6 _NSEventThread + 124
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff20352950 _pthread_start + 224
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2034e47b thread_start + 15
Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
Logical CPU: 0
Error Code: 0x00000000
Trap Number: 0
Thread 0 instruction stream:
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I experimenting today that if you change the particules "render" property to "object" for my exemple it works (of course you have to put an object).
But as you come back to "path" setting instead of "object", it crashes.
I know it doesn't solve the problem but it may help some experts ;)
my machine :
MacBook Pro 15" (early 2015)
MacOs 11.14
Ram = 16Go
Vrai = AMD Radeon R9 M370X + iris pro 1536Mo
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Blender 2.92.0 doesn't crash on my old Macbook 2013 running macOS Mojave 10.14.6. I'm planning on updating it to Cataline soon, so may check again later.
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MB-Lab 1.7.8 crashes on my 2015 MacBook Pro (mac os 11.3) the moment I try to add Particle Hair, if I'm running Blender 2.93.2. If I downgrade to Blender 2.83 LTS, it seems to work fine.
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I also have the exact same problem on my linux machine
Operating system: Linux-5.13.11-1-MANJARO-x86_64-with-glibc2.33 64 Bits
Graphics card: Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 (IVB GT2) Intel Open Source Technology Center 4.2 (Core Profile) Mesa 21.1.6
when running blender from consle and clicking hair it crashes with this error
ERROR (gpu.shader): hair_refine_shader_compute_create ComputeShader:
Writing: /tmp/blender.crash.txt
works fine on blender version 2.93.2
but breaks on blender version 3.0.0
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Somehow managed to create a file with hair particles after several crashes. Now, can't open said file using 2.93.1 Mac 2013 TrashCan Mac BigSur Version 11.5.2{F10361470}
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Linux crash is unrelated. Compute shaders are not used when running on Mac. But it could be related to the transform feedback emulation. Perhaps the workaround is broken.
I don’t have a Mac with amd in my Arsenal. Will check if someone at bi has one I can borrow.
@Evan-9 can you create a separate ticket for your issue. It seems like your driver reports that it can handle compute shaders before it became widely supported. We should find out to lower the OpenGL required version in order to solve your issue.
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New user here. Just wanted to let y'all know that this bug still doesn't seem to be resolved. I'm running MacOS 11.5.2 2.8 GHz, quad-core intel core i7, AMD Radeon R9 M370X 2 GB
Blender 2.93.5
Can confirm that @thorvaldsson 's assertion that downgrading to blender 2.8.17 will prevent the crash. So if you're like me and just trying to get through Blender Guru's Donut exercise this may be the fix for you.
The crash log above tells us that there is a division by zero error inside certain AMD GPU drivers. We tried to reproduce it on the machines we have here but weren't successful. Is there different behavior when you change the hair shape to strip (eevee setting)?
Wasn't able to reproduce on another
cape verdeGPU. (windows with latest drivers). So it might be out dated GPU drivers, but that is tight to the MacOS in your case.Added subscriber: @markj
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iMac crashes on trying to add a particle system to any object in 9.3.4 with latest iMac OS.
Mac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015)
3.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5
AMD Radeon R9 M390 2 GB
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Blender 2.94.3 crashes on my older MacBook but not on my newer Mac when I have a hair particle system attached to a mesh and do the following:
I load my .blend file, and as soon as I change
from None to either Rendered or Path, Blender 2.94.3 crashes immediately with a divide by zero error.
It seems to crash only when Children->Simple or Children->Interpolated is enabled.
I'm a newbie to Blender, but I'll try to see if I can build Blender 2.94.3 from source in XCode on my older MacBook and find out where the divide by 0 is happening.
I haven't been able to reproduce the issue on my systems. Anyone who can reproduce can take on the challenge to fix this issue.
Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Needs User Info'
I also couldn't replicate it on the mac that I have available.
The initial description mentions version
2.91.0and the comment from @WhiteHusky mentions version2.94.3. Does this mean that in development version 3.0.0 this is already fixed?Please, whoever can replicate the problem, try the latest daily build: https://builder.blender.org/download/
System Information
Operating system: macOS-11.5.2-arm64-arm-64bit 64 Bits
Graphics card: Apple M1 Apple 4.1 Metal - 71.7.1
Crashes in the same way using this daily build:
Blender 30.0.0 - Alpha Intel Release (Oct 5, 02:21:39 - master -
18959c502d)I'm running on a
MacBook Pro (Retina 15-inch, Mid 2015) running macOS Big Sur Version 11.6.
Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'
This bug only occurs on older Macs so it's normal that you wouldn't be able to replicate it on your M1 mac. It also occurs in the development 3.0. @mano-wii
I'm no expert, but it seems to be crashing in the graphics card driver.
(Same version of blender doesn't crash on a 2018 MacBook which has an Intel UHD Graphics 630 GPU, and Radeon Pro 560X GPU).
Crash dump:
Process: Blender [74177]
Path: /Users/USER/*/Blender.app/Contents/MacOS/Blender
Identifier: org.blenderfoundation.blender
Version: 3.0.0 (3.0.0 2021-10-07)
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: bash [51099]
Responsible: Terminal [874]
User ID: 501
Date/Time: 2021-10-07 14:34:30.308 -0700
OS Version: macOS 11.3.1 (20E241)
Report Version: 12
Anonymous UUID: 154F39DE-4868-5C12-A624-8672D55CBB8A
Sleep/Wake UUID: BF867972-7683-44F2-A269-486F19E59E00
Time Awake Since Boot: 26000 seconds
Time Since Wake: 56 seconds
System Integrity Protection: disabled
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_ARITHMETIC (SIGFPE)
Exception Codes: EXC_I386_DIV (divide by zero)
Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY
Termination Signal: Floating point exception: 8
Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0x8
Terminating Process: exc handler [74177]
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 com.apple.AMDRadeonX4000GLDriver 0x000000011f460f29 glrUpdateTexture + 1199
1 libGPUSupportMercury.dylib 0x00007fff462186dd gpusLoadCurrentTextures + 521
2 com.apple.AMDRadeonX4000GLDriver 0x000000011f430cf4 gldUpdateDispatch + 243
3 GLEngine 0x00007fff6bc6c2ec gleDoDrawDispatchCoreGL3 + 674
4 GLEngine 0x00007fff6bc331da gleDrawArraysOrElements_Entries_Body + 151
5 GLEngine 0x00007fff6bc3885a glDrawElementsInstancedBaseVertex_GL3Exec + 268
6 libGL.dylib 0x00007fff6bb7f3cf glDrawElementsInstancedBaseVertex + 45
7 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000102a084f3 draw_call_single_do + 467
8 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000102a07b48 drw_draw_pass_ex + 1384
9 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000102a075cf DRW_draw_pass + 31
10 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000102a354fa workbench_draw_sample + 330
11 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000102a356ce workbench_draw_scene + 94
12 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x00000001029fcf99 drw_engines_draw_scene + 185
13 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x00000001029fc2d1 DRW_draw_render_loop_ex + 1441
14 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000103488f4a view3d_main_region_draw + 138
15 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000102f784e1 ED_region_do_draw + 337
16 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x000000010288b64d wm_draw_update + 1757
17 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000102888de0 WM_main + 48
18 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x00000001023114d3 main + 883
19 libdyld.dylib 0x00007fff203d8f3d start + 1
It looks like AMD doesn't support updated drivers for Apple products:
Is there a way Blender can configured to use the Intel GPU instead of the AMD GPU on the 2015 MacBook? Or failing that, some sort of workaround which resets the AMD card state before rendering hair? Or maybe I'll just run Blender on an Ubuntu PC with an NVIDIA GPU :)
Hi Blender Friends,
Here's an Xcode stack trace (attached).
System: MacBook Pro (Retina 15-inch, Mid 2015) running macOS Big Sur Version 11.6
Xcode: 13.0 (13A233)
Blender: 3.0.0 alpha built from source in Xcode, branch = master, Sat Oct 19 14:40:37 2021
To Reproduce: I used Method #1 (Launch blender with default cube, add particle system, click on hair, immediate crash).
Cheers,
Sean
Apologies... Wrong date: I did git pull today, Oct 9. Attaching the Blender git log.
I would have expected the call to glDrawElementsInstancedBaseVertex() to at least return an error status and not crash with a divide by 0 error. So I'd think the root cause is in AMD's driver for the GPU. Maybe a future macOS release would have an updated driver? I can see glDrawElementsInstancedBaseVertex() is called multiple times to draw Blender's UI, but only seems to crash for me when adding Particle System = Hair. I'd trust the developers to know if there's any workaround possible or desirable.
Here's another way to reproduce a crash in the Particle System for Hair (in a different location).
I've attached an XCode stack trace for the crash.
System: MacBook Pro (Retina 15-inch, Mid 2015) running macOS Big Sur Version 11.6
Xcode: 13.0 (13A233)
Blender: 3.0.0 alpha built from source in Xcode, branch = master, Sat Oct 19 14:40:37 2021
Regarding the question of "is this a driver problem": with the same driverand same Mac version, this bug does NOT exist in Blender 2.90.1, but does exist in blender 2.91.x onward. I.e. this bug was introduced by a code change in Blender. This is all in the original description of the problem:
Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.91.0, branch: master, commit date: 2020-11-25 08:34, hash:
0f45cab862Worked: 2.90.1
Thanks, Robert. My mistake. I'll be happy to follow this thread and test any Blender code fixes in future builds.
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This error was present in one of the 3.0 assemblies, but when I downloaded the new version this problem was not. At least in Windows.
2.93.6 (Windows) has no problem.
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Same thing. 3.0 release. Both upgraded from previous versions (main setup) and clean portable install. Crashes on "hair" tab click after adding a new particle system to the default cube.
crash.txt - https://justpaste.it/7yqnd
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@calutron has mentioned workaround to avoid this crash: #75832#1253873 (may work for some of you)
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I just updated from macOS Big Sur to Monterey (12.1) and now I get this crash, when setup hair particles - both in blender 3.0 and 2.93
I never had this crash before on my machine, which is a MacPro 2013 with AMD FirePro 500 graphics cards.
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System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600 Intel 4.3.0 - Build 20.19.15.4326
It happens exactly the same, I thought it was due to having those files "from old versions", but after updating it again, and deleting all the files, I thought it could be a problem with my computer, with this new version.
It happens to me, even having windows operating system.
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Same problem persists for the Mid '15 Macbook Pro (A1398) with macOS 12.3 (21E230) & Blender Version 3.1.0 (3.1.0 2022-03-09).
You can find the crash report attached.
blender-a1398-crash-report-220402.rtf
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We have tried to reproduce this on different Apple hardware, but are not able to. This could be that it fails on 7 year old Mac that we don't have, but as long as we are not able to reproduce we cannot say if we are able to fix it. Or that it is a platform bug.
Hi Jeron
Don’t know if this helps, but its a valid worksround. This is a copy from a comment ealier in this thread.
“Hi this is still broken. I found a weird fix that works:
On default cube make new particle system.
Set emission to 0.
Now change it to Hair mode
Change Viewport Display from "Rendered" to "Path"
Change emission to any number
Render one frame
Change viewport display back Rendered. Done. You should be able to now add hair to any object without it crashing. You only need to do this once per session.”
Kind regards
Jesper Kofod
@kofodjesper thanks for the repost.
Most likely this points out to an incorrect state within the driver. that is being set when performing these actions. I cannot tell which of the thousands gpu calls is fixing the state.
So would need access to a machine to narrow that down.
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I don't understand 'Change Viewport Display from "Rendered" to "Path" - what is "Path"?
Can confirm the workaround works on my mid-2015 macbook pro- thank you very much for the tip!
It is an option in the particle settings: viewport display- see attached screenshot:
Ah got it - thanks. I can confirm this workaround is also good on my Mac Pro 2013 with AMD FirePro D500 3 GB
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Lowering the priority as none of the developers of the GPU module can reproduce it. We are only able to fix this if we are able to get access to the hardware where this fails.
I do believe that the issue is somewhere around draw_hair. As there are issues in the mac driver (not supporting opengl3.3 correctly) we have a different code path there.
According to the stacktrace there is a division by zero when uploading the textures (I assume a texture containing hair data).
What could mean that a previous step didn't generate any hair.
What access is required?
For me physical access is the best option. I tried remote before but due to the lack of opengl debuggers on Mac and the amount of software to install before you can compile blender it is hard to do and can take a day.
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Doesn't work for me. My Mac crash after the rendering (of one frame or more)
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Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Needs Triage'
Doesn't work for me either. Even with following the above steps, once I switch over to Hair, it crashes Blender on my iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015), 3.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5, 8 GB 1867 MHz DDR3 - AMD Radeon R9 M380 2 GB
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Doesn't work for me either
System Information
Operating system: mac os monterey 12.1
Graphics card: AMD Radeon R9 M390 2 GB
3.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5
iMac
Blender Version
Broken: (3.2.0, and 3.2.2 )
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)
crashed.
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tried this afternoon to create hair (new system) with Blender 3.4a and same issue, Blender crash as soon as I click on this beautiful cube ;(
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Totally works for me now on Blender Version 3.3 running macOS Monterey 12.6, where as it would not work for me before. I am happy with this for now, but would be great to not have to do this for every new session
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hello. i just checked on my mac pro 2013, mac os 12.6.2, on which the workaround stopped working some months ago and it crashes with blender 3.3.3-candidate and 3.4.1.
but not with 3.5.0-alpha, when the ui is switched to metal. :)
Hi, can someone confirm whether crash happens with viewport Metal backend in 3.5?: https://builder.blender.org/download/daily/
Hello, I just tried it out with the Metal backend and so far I haven't had any crashes. I'm using a mid 2015 Macbook Pro running macOS 12.6.1 Monterey.
Since nobody else responded, will assime this is working well, so will close.