Constant crashing on OS X #87382

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Talin . · 2021-04-11T02:14:41+02:00

Talin . commented

2021-04-11 02:14:41 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: OS X 11.2.3 (Big Sur)
Graphics card: iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015)

Blender Version
Broken: 2.92.0
Worked: unknown

Short description of error

I'm getting crashes about every 5-30 minutes randomly. No particular pattern to it, sometimes it happens on a brand new scene. No special plugins installed. I'm just doing character modeling, no rendering.

This has been happening on the last several versions of Blender. (I don't know if it happening before that since I stopped using Blender for a couple years.)

Crash dump attached.

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff2053b462 __pthread_kill + 10
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fff20569610 pthread_kill + 263
2   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x00007fff204bc7ba __abort + 139
3   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x00007fff204bc72f abort + 135
4   libsystem_malloc.dylib        	0x00007fff2039d430 malloc_vreport + 548
5   libsystem_malloc.dylib        	0x00007fff203a04c8 malloc_report + 151
6   org.blenderfoundation.blender 	0x00000001111383a8 BLI_memblock_destroy + 152
7   org.blenderfoundation.blender 	0x000000010fa65c84 GPU_viewport_free + 692
8   org.blenderfoundation.blender 	0x000000010988839a WM_draw_region_free + 42
9   org.blenderfoundation.blender 	0x0000000109e7786f ED_region_exit + 79
10  org.blenderfoundation.blender 	0x0000000109e7798b ED_area_exit + 123
11  org.blenderfoundation.blender 	0x0000000109e77a9b ED_screen_exit + 203
12  org.blenderfoundation.blender 	0x0000000109e832b7 ED_workspace_change + 183
13  org.blenderfoundation.blender 	0x00000001098b8b9b WM_window_set_active_workspace + 59
14  org.blenderfoundation.blender 	0x000000010988a322 wm_event_do_notifiers + 610
15  org.blenderfoundation.blender 	0x0000000109885368 WM_main + 40
16  org.blenderfoundation.blender 	0x0000000109463b8b main + 907
17  libdyld.dylib                 	0x00007fff20584621 start + 1

blender-crash.txt

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

Unfortunately it seems random, I can only reproduce it simply by doing any kind of modeling work for more than a few minutes.

**System Information** Operating system: OS X 11.2.3 (Big Sur) Graphics card: iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015) **Blender Version** Broken: 2.92.0 Worked: unknown **Short description of error** I'm getting crashes about every 5-30 minutes randomly. No particular pattern to it, sometimes it happens on a brand new scene. No special plugins installed. I'm just doing character modeling, no rendering. This has been happening on the last several versions of Blender. (I don't know if it happening before that since I stopped using Blender for a couple years.) Crash dump attached. ``` Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff2053b462 __pthread_kill + 10 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff20569610 pthread_kill + 263 2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff204bc7ba __abort + 139 3 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff204bc72f abort + 135 4 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff2039d430 malloc_vreport + 548 5 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff203a04c8 malloc_report + 151 6 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x00000001111383a8 BLI_memblock_destroy + 152 7 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x000000010fa65c84 GPU_viewport_free + 692 8 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x000000010988839a WM_draw_region_free + 42 9 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000109e7786f ED_region_exit + 79 10 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000109e7798b ED_area_exit + 123 11 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000109e77a9b ED_screen_exit + 203 12 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000109e832b7 ED_workspace_change + 183 13 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x00000001098b8b9b WM_window_set_active_workspace + 59 14 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x000000010988a322 wm_event_do_notifiers + 610 15 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000109885368 WM_main + 40 16 org.blenderfoundation.blender 0x0000000109463b8b main + 907 17 libdyld.dylib 0x00007fff20584621 start + 1 ``` [blender-crash.txt](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9928677/blender-crash.txt) **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Unfortunately it seems random, I can only reproduce it simply by doing any kind of modeling work for more than a few minutes.

Talin . commented

2021-04-11 02:14:41 +02:00

Added subscriber: @viridia

Germano Cavalcante commented

2021-04-14 17:19:58 +02:00

Added subscriber: @mano-wii

Germano Cavalcante commented

2021-04-14 17:19:58 +02:00

This is certainly a graphic problem with OpenGL drivers as it happens in a GPU function (GPU_viewport_free)
Probably the result of the same problem described in #87161 (Blender randomly crash without reason in 'glDrawElementsInstancedBaseVertex' (in 'OVERLAY_wireframe_draw' or 'workbench_draw_sample'))

Unfortunately MacOS has limited support for OpenGL so the drivers can be problematic.
Perhaps these graphical issues will be overcome when Blender supports Vulkan (as an option to OpenGL).

This is certainly a graphic problem with OpenGL drivers as it happens in a GPU function (GPU_viewport_free) Probably the result of the same problem described in #87161 (Blender randomly crash without reason in 'glDrawElementsInstancedBaseVertex' (in 'OVERLAY_wireframe_draw' or 'workbench_draw_sample')) Unfortunately MacOS has limited support for OpenGL so the drivers can be problematic. Perhaps these graphical issues will be overcome when Blender supports Vulkan (as an option to OpenGL).

Chad Gleason commented

2021-04-14 21:21:56 +02:00

Added subscriber: @fahr

Chad Gleason commented

2021-04-14 21:21:56 +02:00

Thank you for looking into this. I dont think we should just hope that Vulkan fixes it, however, especially since Vulkan for Blender is likely a long ways off. Personally, I would even be happy with workarounds, as long it results in a stable Blender. I've tried not using EEVEE, not allowing the display to sleep, but nothing seems to help overall. I sincerely hope the developers can find a solution for this.

Damien commented

2021-04-25 15:51:51 +02:00

Added subscriber: @damdam083

Damien commented

2021-04-25 15:51:51 +02:00

Hello,

I have the exact same iMac as above and also a macbook Pro 13 Mid 2014.
Since I've tried 2.90, 2.91 and 2.92, Blender crashed so often and totally randomly like when:

opening the software
using any tool.
an-hiding a Collection
switching back from another software to Blender
while rendering.
anything you can think about.

My solution: Sticking with Blender 2.82 which is rock solid for me (on both machines). Any version above crashes like crazy.

Hope, one day, one of these new version work as I wish.
All my best Blender team. You do a wonderful job here.

Hope these report can help!

Cheers,
Damien

Crash report 2.rtf

Crash report 1.rtf

Hello, I have the exact same iMac as above and also a macbook Pro 13 Mid 2014. Since I've tried 2.90, 2.91 and 2.92, Blender crashed so often and totally randomly like when: - opening the software - using any tool. - an-hiding a Collection - switching back from another software to Blender - while rendering. - anything you can think about. **My solution: Sticking with Blender 2.82 which is rock solid for me (on both machines). Any version above crashes like crazy.** Hope, one day, one of these new version work as I wish. All my best Blender team. You do a wonderful job here. Hope these report can help! Cheers, Damien [Crash report 2.rtf](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10037460/Crash_report_2.rtf) [Crash report 1.rtf](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10037461/Crash_report_1.rtf)

Omar Emara commented

2022-07-21 15:01:46 +02:00

Added subscriber: @OmarEmaraDev

Omar Emara commented

2022-07-21 15:01:46 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Omar Emara commented

2022-07-21 15:01:46 +02:00

Is this still an issue in the latest version of Blender? https://builder.blender.org/
If yes, can you try opening Blender with blender --debug-depsgraph-no-threads --threads 1. Does it still crash in this case?

Is this still an issue in the latest version of Blender? https://builder.blender.org/ If yes, can you try opening Blender with `blender --debug-depsgraph-no-threads --threads 1`. Does it still crash in this case?

Talin . commented

2022-07-21 17:56:32 +02:00

I've been running an alpha build of 3.2.0 and it has not crashed in a long time.

Damien commented

2022-07-22 03:44:08 +02:00

Hello, my experience is the same as Talin. Since Blender 3 (and now using 3.2.1) crashes are quite rare. Only if I push a render too far but that's expected.
I've run Blender smoothly on my iMac Late 2015 (AMD Radeon R9 390M) and now my "new" iMac 2020 (AMD Radeon Pro 5700 XT 16 GB).
All good !
Thank you Blender Team for your hard work :-)

Hello, my experience is the same as Talin. Since Blender 3 (and now using 3.2.1) crashes are quite rare. Only if I push a render too far but that's expected. I've run Blender smoothly on my iMac Late 2015 (AMD Radeon R9 390M) and now my "new" iMac 2020 (AMD Radeon Pro 5700 XT 16 GB). All good ! Thank you Blender Team for your hard work :-)

Omar Emara commented

2022-07-22 07:45:35 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Archived'

Omar Emara closed this issue

2022-07-22 07:45:35 +02:00

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Constant crashing on OS X #87382