Text objects count as double in scene statistics #94038

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Damien Picard · 2021-12-14T01:01:23+01:00

Damien Picard commented

2021-12-14 01:01:23 +01:00

System Information
Operating system: Linux-5.13.0-22-generic-x86_64-with-glibc2.34 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce GTX 660M/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 418.226.00

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.0.0 Release
Broken: version: 3.1.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-12-13 23:43, hash: b647509913
Caused by b9febb54a4

Short description of error
Text objects count as double in scene statistics. No other object type seems to be affected.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

text_objects_duplicate_in_statistics.blend

Open Blender with factory defaults
Delete default objects
Create text object
Activate scene statistics in the bottom status bar
Activate statistics in viewport overlays

Both statistics display 2 objects instead of just 1.

**System Information** Operating system: Linux-5.13.0-22-generic-x86_64-with-glibc2.34 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce GTX 660M/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 418.226.00 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.0.0 Release Broken: version: 3.1.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-12-13 23:43, hash: `b647509913` Caused by b9febb54a4 **Short description of error** Text objects count as double in scene statistics. No other object type seems to be affected. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** [text_objects_duplicate_in_statistics.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F12738439/text_objects_duplicate_in_statistics.blend) - Open Blender with factory defaults - Delete default objects - Create text object - Activate scene statistics in the bottom status bar - Activate statistics in viewport overlays Both statistics display 2 objects instead of just 1. ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F12738440/image.png)

Damien Picard commented

2021-12-14 01:01:23 +01:00

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Pratik Borhade commented

2021-12-14 10:32:10 +01:00

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Garek commented

2021-12-14 10:33:11 +01:00

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Garek commented

2021-12-14 10:33:11 +01:00

I can confirm on 3.0 release. Note that in Edit and Pose modes it count text as 1 object, in all others it's 2 (unless I missed some modes that shows only after adding certain object). No other category is counted as 2.

Pratik Borhade commented

2021-12-14 10:36:32 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'

Pratik Borhade self-assigned this 2021-12-14 10:36:32 +01:00

Pratik Borhade commented

2021-12-14 10:36:32 +01:00

Thanks for the report. Can confirm as well.

@Garek , thanks for testing :)
How did you manage to enter in pose & other mode with text object? With cube as active object?

Thanks for the report. Can confirm as well. @Garek , thanks for testing :) How did you manage to enter in pose & other mode with text object? With cube as active object?

Garek commented

2021-12-14 10:52:00 +01:00

In #94038#1272083, @PratikPB2123 wrote:
How did you manage to enter in pose mode with text object? With cube as active object?

Since scene statistics counts all objects, not only active one, I just added armature object, selected it and changed to Pose mode. Same with other modes.

> In #94038#1272083, @PratikPB2123 wrote: > How did you manage to enter in pose mode with text object? With cube as active object? Since scene statistics counts all objects, not only active one, I just added armature object, selected it and changed to Pose mode. Same with other modes.

Damien Picard commented

2021-12-16 18:12:58 +01:00

Added subscriber: @HooglyBoogly

Damien Picard commented

2021-12-16 18:12:58 +01:00

@HooglyBoogly I bisected this to b9febb54a4.

I don’t understand what exactly is going on, but it looks like a text object inside geometry nodes is counted as an object in addition to the top-level object.

I tried using the geometry from a text object inside a mesh’s geometry nodes, and that object counted triple!

@HooglyBoogly I bisected this to b9febb54a4. I don’t understand what exactly is going on, but it looks like a text object inside geometry nodes is counted as an object in addition to the top-level object. I tried using the geometry from a text object inside a mesh’s geometry nodes, and that object counted *triple*! ![rBb9febb54a492_geo_curves_duplicates.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F12754089/rBb9febb54a492_geo_curves_duplicates.png)

Pratik Borhade removed their assignment 2021-12-18 11:07:07 +01:00

Nigni Begna commented

2022-01-15 01:34:51 +01:00

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Nigni Begna commented

2022-01-15 01:34:51 +01:00

Hi, I uploaded a revision for this task https://developer.blender.org/D13840

Will commented

2022-02-12 08:25:13 +01:00

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Will commented

2022-02-12 08:25:13 +01:00

Curves with a bevel_object also count as double.

Curves with a `bevel_object` also count as double.

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2022-02-28 17:50:36 +01:00

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Brecht Van Lommel commented

2022-02-28 17:50:36 +01:00

Tagging high priority bugs with 3.1 so we get an overview of the work remaining for that release. If the module owner does not consider this planned for 3.1, please change the tag to 3.2 or lower the priority to normal.

Hans Goudey commented

2022-03-01 19:07:36 +01:00

I think this is complicated by two things:

The internals don't match the UI (the fact that we present mesh instances as objects to renderers is a relic of past design that should arguably be completely rethought).
There is no clear design for what that object count is actually supposed to mean.

There are plenty of possibilities and cases to consider:

Original objects
Original objects and object instances
Original objects and recursive objects in collection instances
Evaluated objects with multiple geometry components
Evaluated objects with nested instancing
Evaluated objects with geometry component instances (where geometry component can have more than one geometry component).

Packing all that information into a single number is going to require some compromises, I think. I've messed around with adding various flags to DupliObject a few times in the past, but never got something that I think everyone would consider "a fix".

I would just make this number count original objects and avoid all that complexity. More precise information about instancing can be found with the spreadsheet editor anyway.

I think this is complicated by two things: - The internals don't match the UI (the fact that we present mesh instances as objects to renderers is a relic of past design that should arguably be completely rethought). - There is no clear design for what that object count is actually supposed to mean. There are plenty of possibilities and cases to consider: - Original objects - Original objects and object instances - Original objects and recursive objects in collection instances - Evaluated objects with multiple geometry components - Evaluated objects with nested instancing - Evaluated objects with geometry component instances (where geometry component can have more than one geometry component). Packing all that information into a single number is going to require some compromises, I think. I've messed around with adding various flags to `DupliObject` a few times in the past, but never got something that I think everyone would consider "a fix". I would just make this number count original objects and avoid all that complexity. More precise information about instancing can be found with the spreadsheet editor anyway.

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2022-03-01 19:27:40 +01:00

What stats are designed for right now is to show the scene complexity as delivered to the renderer, not the original scene. I think that's reasonably well defined, even if arguments can be made for and against that.

If there's a text object in the scene presumably the renderer is only going to render one object and that's the one we can count? At least I assume it's not e.g. exporting two objects with one being empty.

What stats are designed for right now is to show the scene complexity as delivered to the renderer, not the original scene. I think that's reasonably well defined, even if arguments can be made for and against that. If there's a text object in the scene presumably the renderer is only going to render one object and that's the one we can count? At least I assume it's not e.g. exporting two objects with one being empty.

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2022-03-01 19:28:08 +01:00

Also, this does not seem like a showstopper for 3.1 even if it's a regression.

Jacques Lucke commented

2022-03-02 12:41:20 +01:00

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Jacques Lucke commented

2022-03-02 12:41:20 +01:00

Also, this does not seem like a showstopper for 3.1 even if it's a regression.

Agreed.

> Also, this does not seem like a showstopper for 3.1 even if it's a regression. Agreed.

Thomas Dinges commented

2022-03-02 13:24:52 +01:00

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Thomas Dinges commented

2022-03-02 13:24:52 +01:00

In #94038#1315716, @brecht wrote:
Also, this does not seem like a showstopper for 3.1 even if it's a regression.

In this case please change the tag to 3.2 or general BF Blender, so it's not on the 3.1 board anymore.

> In #94038#1315716, @brecht wrote: > Also, this does not seem like a showstopper for 3.1 even if it's a regression. In this case please change the tag to 3.2 or general BF Blender, so it's not on the 3.1 board anymore.

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Text objects count as double in scene statistics #94038