Regression: Area lights. Size manipulators lost (WIN+NVidia) #97124

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Vyacheslav Kobozev · 2022-04-07T00:33:47+02:00

2022-04-07 00:33:47 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-8.1-6.3.9600-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 472.12

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.1.2, branch: master, commit date: 2022-03-31 17:40, hash: cc66d1020c
Worked: 3.0.1, dc2d180181, 2022-01-25 17:19

Caused by 0cb5eae9d0

Short description of error
As title say. I mean these manipulators in corners:

They lost for all types of area light.

2022-04-07_01-29-20.mp4

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-8.1-6.3.9600-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 472.12 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.1.2, branch: master, commit date: 2022-03-31 17:40, hash: `cc66d1020c` Worked: 3.0.1, dc2d18018171, 2022-01-25 17:19 Caused by 0cb5eae9d0 **Short description of error** As title say. I mean these manipulators in corners: ![изображение.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F12979490/изображение.png) They lost for all types of area light. [2022-04-07_01-29-20.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F12979486/2022-04-07_01-29-20.mp4)

Vyacheslav Kobozev commented

2022-04-07 00:33:47 +02:00

Added subscriber: @Vyach

blender-admin commented

2022-04-07 00:33:47 +02:00

#97598 was marked as duplicate of this issue

blender-admin commented

2022-04-07 00:33:47 +02:00

#97181 was marked as duplicate of this issue

Vyacheslav Kobozev changed title from ~~Area lights. Size manipulators lost.~~ to Regression: Area lights. Size manipulators lost.

2022-04-07 01:32:48 +02:00

Pratik Borhade commented

2022-04-07 05:46:22 +02:00

Added subscriber: @PratikPB2123

Pratik Borhade commented

2022-04-07 05:46:22 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Pratik Borhade commented

2022-04-07 05:46:22 +02:00

Hi @Vyach , thanks for the report.
I can not reproduce on both 3.2 and 3.1.2
Do you have Light Size option unchecked in Viewport gizmo popover?

Hi @Vyach , thanks for the report. I can not reproduce on both 3.2 and 3.1.2 Do you have `Light Size` option unchecked in Viewport gizmo popover?

Vyacheslav Kobozev commented

2022-04-07 19:24:27 +02:00

In #97124#1337219, @PratikPB2123 wrote:
Do you have Light Size option unchecked in Viewport gizmo popover?

I started with factory settings, so there was defaults everywhere.

Where is «Light size» option?
This one? Always on

Also now I remember that one of previous versions had blinking manipulators.
They appear only when I aimed in very tight area, and area wasn`t on the corner, but a bit far from it.

> In #97124#1337219, @PratikPB2123 wrote: > Do you have `Light Size` option unchecked in Viewport gizmo popover? I started with factory settings, so there was defaults everywhere. Where is «Light size» option? This one? Always on ![изображение.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F12981271/изображение.png) Also now I remember that one of previous versions had blinking manipulators. They appear only when I aimed in very tight area, and area wasn`t on the corner, but a bit far from it.

TheRedWaxPolice commented

2022-04-08 06:46:35 +02:00

Added subscriber: @TheRedWaxPolice

TheRedWaxPolice commented

2022-04-08 06:46:35 +02:00

Confirmed... no manipulators here too...

Pratik Borhade commented

2022-04-08 06:58:15 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Triage'

Pratik Borhade commented

2022-04-08 06:58:15 +02:00

Ok, thanks for checking. Tested again on 3.2-3.1 and still can't reproduce
Will ask someone if they can reproduce and investigate further :)
Blender 2022-04-08 10-21-58.mp4

Ok, thanks for checking. Tested again on 3.2-3.1 and still can't reproduce Will ask someone if they can reproduce and investigate further :) [Blender 2022-04-08 10-21-58.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F12983280/Blender_2022-04-08_10-21-58.mp4)

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-04-08 09:50:51 +02:00

Added subscriber: @lichtwerk

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-04-08 09:50:51 +02:00

Hm cannot repro here in both 3.1.2 and 3.2

**System Information**
Operating system: Linux-5.13.0-0.rc6.45.fc35.x86_64-x86_64-with-glibc2.34.9000 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 495.44
version: 3.1.2, branch: master, commit date: 2022-03-31 17:40, hash: `rBcc66d1020c3b`

Hm cannot repro here in both 3.1.2 and 3.2 ``` **System Information** Operating system: Linux-5.13.0-0.rc6.45.fc35.x86_64-x86_64-with-glibc2.34.9000 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 495.44 version: 3.1.2, branch: master, commit date: 2022-03-31 17:40, hash: `rBcc66d1020c3b` ```

Jesse Yurkovich commented

2022-04-08 22:20:51 +02:00

Added subscriber: @slowburn

Jesse Yurkovich commented

2022-04-09 07:07:32 +02:00

Added subscriber: @deadpin

Jesse Yurkovich commented

2022-04-09 07:07:32 +02:00

I'm seeing something quite weird on my end. On otherwise similar machines using the same build of blender running Windows-10-10.0.19044-SP0 64 Bits:

Works: Graphics card: AMD FirePro W2100 ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.14831 Core Profile Context FireGL 21.Q2.1 27.20.21026.2006
Broken: Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 with Max-Q Design/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 511.09

I'm seeing something quite weird on my end. On otherwise similar machines using the same build of blender running Windows-10-10.0.19044-SP0 64 Bits: Works: Graphics card: AMD FirePro W2100 ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.14831 Core Profile Context FireGL 21.Q2.1 27.20.21026.2006 Broken: Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 with Max-Q Design/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 511.09

Robert Guetzkow commented

2022-04-11 23:11:40 +02:00

Added subscriber: @rjg

Robert Guetzkow commented

2022-04-11 23:11:40 +02:00

I can reproduce the issue on Windows 10 with an NVIDIA GeForce 1080 Ti (driver 512.15) in Blender 3.1.2 and current master. Release 3.0.1 appears to work fine.

Vyacheslav Kobozev commented

2022-04-11 23:34:13 +02:00

Renewed GPU drivers for my win 8.1, it doesen`t help

Julian Wildauer commented

2022-04-12 11:01:33 +02:00

Added subscriber: @TheBigIvason

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-04-12 14:53:41 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-04-12 14:53:41 +02:00

In #97124#1339382, @rjg wrote:
I can reproduce the issue on Windows 10 with an NVIDIA GeForce 1080 Ti (driver 512.15) in Blender 3.1.2 and current master. Release 3.0.1 appears to work fine.

Guess we can call it Confirmed then.
If someone could bisect this, we could raise priority to High.

> In #97124#1339382, @rjg wrote: > I can reproduce the issue on Windows 10 with an NVIDIA GeForce 1080 Ti (driver 512.15) in Blender 3.1.2 and current master. Release 3.0.1 appears to work fine. Guess we can call it `Confirmed` then. If someone could bisect this, we could raise priority to High.

Robert Guetzkow commented

2022-04-12 16:53:29 +02:00

Added subscriber: @ideasman42

Robert Guetzkow commented

2022-04-12 16:53:29 +02:00

The bug was introduced by commit 0cb5eae9d0 @campbellbarton.

The bug was introduced by commit 0cb5eae9d0 @campbellbarton.

Pratik Borhade commented

2022-04-25 10:06:40 +02:00

Added subscriber: @LalaGhost

Campbell Barton self-assigned this 2022-04-28 05:27:38 +02:00

Campbell Barton removed their assignment 2022-04-28 10:06:02 +02:00

Campbell Barton commented

2022-04-28 10:06:02 +02:00

Unfortunately I don't have an NVidia card available at the moment and can't redo the bug.

Tested with software-gl and this worked too, it's strange that only this gizmo fails.

Is this only happening for NVidia on Windows? Or does Linux+NVidia also show the problem?

Unfortunately I don't have an NVidia card available at the moment and can't redo the bug. Tested with software-gl and this worked too, it's strange that only this gizmo fails. Is this only happening for NVidia on Windows? Or does Linux+NVidia also show the problem?

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-04-28 10:09:49 +02:00

In #97124#1348142, @ideasman42 wrote:
Is this only happening for NVidia on Windows? Or does Linux+NVidia also show the problem?

In #97124#1337782, @lichtwerk wrote:
Hm cannot repro here in both 3.1.2 and 3.2

**System Information**
Operating system: Linux-5.13.0-0.rc6.45.fc35.x86_64-x86_64-with-glibc2.34.9000 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 495.44
version: 3.1.2, branch: master, commit date: 2022-03-31 17:40, hash: `cc66d1020c`

> In #97124#1348142, @ideasman42 wrote: > Is this only happening for NVidia on Windows? Or does Linux+NVidia also show the problem? > In #97124#1337782, @lichtwerk wrote: > Hm cannot repro here in both 3.1.2 and 3.2 > > ``` > **System Information** > Operating system: Linux-5.13.0-0.rc6.45.fc35.x86_64-x86_64-with-glibc2.34.9000 64 Bits > Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 495.44 > version: 3.1.2, branch: master, commit date: 2022-03-31 17:40, hash: `cc66d1020c` > ```

Campbell Barton changed title from ~~Regression: Area lights. Size manipulators lost.~~ to Regression: Area lights. Size manipulators lost (WIN32+NVidia)

2022-04-28 10:10:55 +02:00

Thomas Dinges commented

2022-04-28 14:56:29 +02:00

Added subscriber: @ThomasDinges

Thomas Dinges commented

2022-04-28 14:56:29 +02:00

@Vyach Your info mentions NVIDIA driver 472.12. Can you please check with a newer driver please, just to be sure?

I cannot reproduce it on Mac with M1 Max.

@Vyach Your info mentions NVIDIA driver 472.12. Can you please check with a newer driver please, just to be sure? I cannot reproduce it on Mac with `M1 Max`.

Pratik Borhade commented

2022-04-28 15:03:06 +02:00

@rjg - I can reproduce the issue on Windows 10 with an NVIDIA GeForce 1080 Ti (driver 512.15)

@ThomasDinges , I don't think updating driver will make any difference

>@rjg - I can reproduce the issue on Windows 10 with an NVIDIA GeForce 1080 Ti **(driver 512.15)** @ThomasDinges , I don't think updating driver will make any difference

Vyacheslav Kobozev changed title from ~~Regression: Area lights. Size manipulators lost (WIN32+NVidia)~~ to Regression: Area lights. Size manipulators lost (WIN+NVidia)

2022-04-28 21:01:47 +02:00

Vyacheslav Kobozev commented

2022-04-28 21:02:12 +02:00

I have win64, so i fixed title.

slowburn commented

2022-04-28 21:46:13 +02:00

In #97124#1348269, @ThomasDinges wrote:
@Vyach Your info mentions NVIDIA driver 472.12. Can you please check with a newer driver please, just to be sure?

I'm on 511.79 and the issue is still there.

> In #97124#1348269, @ThomasDinges wrote: > @Vyach Your info mentions NVIDIA driver 472.12. Can you please check with a newer driver please, just to be sure? I'm on 511.79 and the issue is still there.

Vyacheslav Kobozev commented

2022-04-28 22:08:09 +02:00

In #97124#1348269, @ThomasDinges wrote:
@Vyach Your info mentions NVIDIA driver 472.12. Can you please check with a newer driver please, just to be sure?

473.04, last stable driver for my OS. Bug is still here.

> In #97124#1348269, @ThomasDinges wrote: > @Vyach Your info mentions NVIDIA driver 472.12. Can you please check with a newer driver please, just to be sure? 473.04, last stable driver for my OS. Bug is still here.

Ray molenkamp commented

2022-04-28 22:44:54 +02:00

Added subscriber: @LazyDodo

Ray molenkamp commented

2022-04-28 22:44:54 +02:00

I can repro (on win10) with both

renderer:	'llvmpipe (LLVM 13.0.0, 256 bits)'
vendor:		'Mesa/X.org'
version:	'4.5 (Core Profile) Mesa 21.3.4 (git-bfe18835b5)'

and


renderer:	'NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660/PCIe/SSE2'
vendor:		'NVIDIA Corporation'
version:	'4.5.0 NVIDIA 511.65'

so doesn't feel like a driver bug...

I can repro (on win10) with both ``` renderer: 'llvmpipe (LLVM 13.0.0, 256 bits)' vendor: 'Mesa/X.org' version: '4.5 (Core Profile) Mesa 21.3.4 (git-bfe18835b5)' ``` and ``` renderer: 'NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660/PCIe/SSE2' vendor: 'NVIDIA Corporation' version: '4.5.0 NVIDIA 511.65' ``` so doesn't *feel* like a driver bug...

Campbell Barton commented

2022-04-29 03:39:37 +02:00

That's odd, I cant redo the error with LLVMPipe on Linux, perhaps this is specifically a windows issue, checking the windowing code I can't see any obvious cause for this, although some difference in GHOST could be the cause.

renderer:       'llvmpipe (LLVM 13.0.1, 256 bits)'
vendor:         'Mesa/X.org'
version:        '4.5 (Core Profile) Mesa 22.0.2'

That's odd, I cant redo the error with LLVMPipe on Linux, perhaps this is specifically a windows issue, checking the windowing code I can't see any obvious cause for this, although some difference in GHOST could be the cause. ``` renderer: 'llvmpipe (LLVM 13.0.1, 256 bits)' vendor: 'Mesa/X.org' version: '4.5 (Core Profile) Mesa 22.0.2' ```

Harley Acheson commented

2022-04-29 04:31:24 +02:00

Added subscriber: @Harley

Harley Acheson commented

2022-04-29 04:31:24 +02:00

In case this helps, I'm also on Windows with NVIDIA.

While dragging my mouse around that area I am seeing calls to gizmo_find_intersected_3d. Inside there the meat of it is the result of gizmo_find_intersected_3d_intern. That is always returning 0 as hit_count for me at those corners. It is being called with use_depth_test = false and has_3d_select_bias = false. If I make use_depth_test always true then it works perfectly. Changing only has_3d_select_bias makes no similar difference. Just setting use_depth_cache true does not change behavior.

In case this helps, I'm also on Windows with NVIDIA. While dragging my mouse around that area I am seeing calls to `gizmo_find_intersected_3d`. Inside there the meat of it is the result of `gizmo_find_intersected_3d_intern`. That is always returning 0 as hit_count for me at those corners. It is being called with use_depth_test = false and has_3d_select_bias = false. **If I make `use_depth_test` always true then it works perfectly**. Changing only has_3d_select_bias makes no similar difference. Just setting use_depth_cache true does not change behavior.

blender-admin commented

2022-04-29 05:01:01 +02:00

This issue was referenced by 9dadd8bdb1

This issue was referenced by 9dadd8bdb101fd5c06cd6ca7aa708a6ce6f13d47

Campbell Barton commented

2022-04-29 05:14:38 +02:00

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Resolved'

Campbell Barton closed this issue

2022-04-29 05:14:38 +02:00

Campbell Barton self-assigned this 2022-04-29 05:14:38 +02:00

Campbell Barton commented

2022-04-29 05:15:41 +02:00

Thanks for testing without depth testing, committed this as a workaround.

Adrian commented

2022-04-29 08:54:44 +02:00

Removed subscriber: @LalaGhost

slowburn commented

2022-05-08 22:16:31 +02:00

Size gizmo is fixed but now Look at manipulator doesn't work. 🤔 Should I create a new bug report? It seems like was broken by the fix that @ideasman42 committed.

Vyacheslav Kobozev commented

2022-05-08 23:01:26 +02:00

In #97124#1354050, @slowburn wrote:
Size gizmo is fixed but now Look at manipulator doesn't work. 🤔 Should I create a new bug report? It seems like was broken by the fix that @ideasman42 committed.

The same, I can`t grab it too
2022-05-09_00-00-45.mp4

> In #97124#1354050, @slowburn wrote: > Size gizmo is fixed but now Look at manipulator doesn't work. 🤔 Should I create a new bug report? It seems like was broken by the fix that @ideasman42 committed. The same, I can`t grab it too [2022-05-09_00-00-45.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13059405/2022-05-09_00-00-45.mp4)

TheRedWaxPolice commented

2022-05-08 23:18:00 +02:00

In #97124#1354050, @slowburn wrote:
manipulator doesn't work. 🤔 Should I create a new bug report?

@slowburn Looks like it's already reported... #97771 (Regression: light gizmos not working (Windows + NVidia))

> In #97124#1354050, @slowburn wrote: >manipulator doesn't work. 🤔 Should I create a new bug report? @slowburn Looks like it's already reported... #97771 (Regression: light gizmos not working (Windows + NVidia))

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Regression: Area lights. Size manipulators lost (WIN+NVidia) #97124