Inconsistent Behavior of Delete Operation #112766

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Grigoriy Titaev · 2023-09-23T10:02:42+02:00

Grigoriy Titaev commented

2023-09-23 10:02:42 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows 10

Blender Version
Broken: 3.6.3, 4.0.0 Alpha (2023-09-23)

Short description of error
The delete operation in different editors has the same name, but different behavior:

In 3D Viewport in the Object menu there are 2 operations: Delete (X) and Delete Global (Shift X).
Delete deletes linked objects only from the current scene, Delete Global deletes linked objects from all scenes.

In Outliner in right-click menu on object there is an only operation Delete (X), but it works like Delete Global (Shift X) in 3D Viewport, and it deletes objects from all scenes, although it is expected that it will delete object only from the current scene.

For the same behavior, it is necessary:

In Outliner operation Delete (X) should be renamed and the hotkey changed to Delete Global (Shift X)
OR the behavior should be changed to the same as in 3D Viewport, to delete object only from the current scene
OR in Outliner in right-click menu there should be two operations as in the 3D Viewport: Delete (X) and Delete Global (Shift X)

Confirmation of deletion
Now in Outliner hotkey X deletes objects from all scenes without confirmation, this leads to unwanted delete of objects from other scenes. For global deletion must be confirmation.

Tooltips
You also need to change the text of the tooltips for these operations, now it is the same "Delete selected objects":

For "Delete" change text to "Delete selected objects. Linked objects will be deleted only from the current scene."
For "Delete Global" change text to "Delete selected objects. Linked objects will be deleted from all scenes."

**System Information** Operating system: Windows 10 **Blender Version** Broken: 3.6.3, 4.0.0 Alpha (2023-09-23) **Short description of error** The delete operation in different editors has the same name, but different behavior: ![Delete Operation.png](/attachments/0cd54816-74f8-4d27-8442-380836f8526e) In `3D Viewport` in the Object menu there are 2 operations: `Delete (X)` and `Delete Global (Shift X)`. `Delete` deletes linked objects only from the current scene, `Delete Global` deletes linked objects from all scenes. In `Outliner` in right-click menu on object there is an only operation `Delete (X)`, but it works like `Delete Global (Shift X)` in `3D Viewport`, and it deletes objects from all scenes, although it is expected that it will delete object only from the current scene. For the same behavior, it is necessary: * In `Outliner` operation `Delete (X)` should be renamed and the hotkey changed to `Delete Global (Shift X)` * OR the behavior should be changed to the same as in `3D Viewport`, to delete object only from the current scene * OR in `Outliner` in right-click menu there should be two operations as in the `3D Viewport`: `Delete (X)` and `Delete Global (Shift X)` **Confirmation of deletion** Now in `Outliner` hotkey `X` deletes objects from all scenes without confirmation, this leads to unwanted delete of objects from other scenes. For global deletion must be confirmation. **Tooltips** You also need to change the text of the tooltips for these operations, now it is the same "Delete selected objects": ![Delete Operation - Tooltips.png](/attachments/dbe0e5dc-9938-4cf0-944d-00f7bcc20171) * For "Delete" change text to "Delete selected objects. Linked objects will be deleted only from the current scene." * For "Delete Global" change text to "Delete selected objects. Linked objects will be deleted from all scenes."

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YimingWu commented

2023-09-25 05:06:10 +02:00

Can confirm. I'm leaning towards exposing both deleting methods in outline and default Delete being the one that deletes linked object from current scene.

Can confirm. I'm leaning towards exposing both deleting methods in outline and default `Delete` being the one that deletes linked object from current scene.

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Philipp Oeser referenced this issue

2023-11-13 09:49:29 +01:00

Boolean operation is persistent unless bool deleted in outliner or name in Geometry Node #114771

Pratik Borhade commented

2024-03-29 10:08:59 +01:00

For "deleting from current scene", there is already "unlink" operation in outliner context menu. I don't think this is a bug. We can instead change the label so their use will be more clear to everyone:

Delete -> Delete Global
Unlink -> Delete (even unlink is fine)

@pablovazquez ^

For "deleting from current scene", there is already "unlink" operation in outliner context menu. I don't think this is a bug. We can instead change the label so their use will be more clear to everyone: - Delete -> Delete Global - Unlink -> Delete (even unlink is fine) @pablovazquez ^

Pablo Vazquez referenced this issue

2024-04-02 12:40:28 +02:00

Outliner: Consistent behavior for deleting objects #120171

Pablo Vazquez commented

2024-04-02 12:41:01 +02:00

For "deleting from current scene", there is already "unlink" operation in outliner context menu. I don't think this is a bug. We can instead change the label so their use will be more clear to everyone:

Delete -> Delete Global

Unlink -> Delete (even unlink is fine)

Made a design task to discuss this. #120171

> For "deleting from current scene", there is already "unlink" operation in outliner context menu. I don't think this is a bug. We can instead change the label so their use will be more clear to everyone: > - Delete -> Delete Global > - Unlink -> Delete (even unlink is fine) Made a design task to discuss this. #120171

Pratik Borhade commented

2024-04-19 11:02:49 +02:00

Thanks, closing this report :)

Pratik Borhade closed this issue

2024-04-19 11:02:52 +02:00

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